GOD IS IMPERSONAL BUT IT IS INFINITE CONSCIOUSNESS: INTERVIEW WITH THE RECORDER OF “CHRIST’S LETTERS”

Carmelo Urso
entiempopresente4@gmail.com

Spetial thanks to Valerie Ann Melfi for having translated this priceless material.

The LETTERS can all be obtained free without charge on the website http://www.christsway.co.za in English, Spanish, French and Italian.

Carmelo Urso: Firstly I’d like you to explain to us, What are CHRIST’S LETTERS?

The Recorder: They are ‘Letters’ dictated by Christ through the mind of his anonymous channeller who was told by Christ to be known only as the Recorder. The purpose was to focus on Christ only as being the true author and inspirer.

Carmelo Urso: When were they written?

The Recorder: They were written during 2000 and early 2001.

Carmelo Urso: Do they pretend to be the basis of a new religion?

The Recorder: The Letters have been given to enlighten us regarding the true NATURE of THAT Which has given being to the visible world and all creation in any dimension. It is a detailed document of explanation of how and why the universe is not really solid but is energy – Consciousness – the consciousness which gives life to all living things.

The universe is not really solid but is energy – Consciousness – the consciousness which gives life to all living things

Carmelo Urso: Why does the person who channelled them remain anonymous?

The Recorder: Many, many people have written spiritual literature which, they have said, has been given them by Christ or Jesus. In most instances, the author has become famous and his name is probably remembered more easily than the works he has written.
The Letters are, according to Christ, the seeds of our future spiritual evolution and are therefore of the utmost importance to people on earth. It must never be forgotten that Christ is both the author and the main spokesman in the text. Nothing whatever has been drawn from other people’s writings. It has all come straight from Christ’s own consciousness.

(The translators reply to the following questions.)

Carmelo Urso: We’d like to know how CHRIST’S LETTERS came into your life.

The translators: I was and had been a fervent Catholic all my life. Even when I was very active in my parish, over the years I became spiritually restless, needing to find higher spirituality and seeking to find it. One afternoon, of all the huge range of spiritual material that can be found on the internet, I clicked onto CHRIST’S WAY and became glued to the screen as I started t oread what I knew I was looking for.

Carmelo Urso: What process of spiritual awakening did these texts produce in you?

The translators: The process is a gradual, daily one; however, miraculous as one comes to perceive the Presence and the Love of the DIVINE CONSCIOUSNESS at each moment and in every undertaking in one’s personal life.

Carmelo Urso: What was your personal visión of Christ before you found these LETTERS?

The translators: My visión of CHRIST was the one the Church teaches us.

Carmelo Urso: Did your ideas and beliefs in Jesus change after Reading them?

The translators: My ideas and beliefs certainly changed after Reading the LETTERS. The following sentence taken from LETTER 4, has certainly occurred in my own experience: “In the LIGHT of CHRIST’s SPIRITUAL TRUTH, doctrines become meanlingless &are swiftly jettisoned from the illumined mind.

Carmelo Urso: What was the task of translating this material into Spanish like? What circumstances drove you to do this work? Did you receive any kind of help from others to complete it? Can translating some work of a Metaphysical kind be equal to the implicit spiritual work in the exercise of, for example, that of prayer or meditation?

The translators: My experience has been marvellous. It has allowed me to go into deeper understanding of the messages, but above all it has put me in contact with the CHRIST ENERGY that is to be found in the LETTERS. I’m taking part in this work with great enthusiasm so that many people can get to know these profound Truths and so do away with so many absurd beliefs that prevent their spiritual progress and in the improvement of their lives in general.

This task of translating material of a metaphysical kind is comparable to the implicit spiritual work of prayer and meditation. In the Oriental spiritual tradition, especially in India, Japan and China, it’s well-known that there are various paths to gain experience with the Divine: An intellectual job well done is one of them. Prayer that leads to meditation is another. Service is another. Contemplative Love and Song is another.

Yes, I have certainly received help from other people. That is a story in itself. Each person came along when most needed….CHRIST – TIMING!

Carmelo Urso: In accordance with these LETTERS; What is the CHRIST? Is it a notion that refers exclusively to the persona of Jesus or does it have a wider field of action?

The Recorder: I, as the recorder, gained the impression that this individual who came to me in rsponse to my anguished call to Jesus, to help me in a time of great distress in 1966, was actually the Christed Jesus – but the persona of Jesus had long since dissolved whilst the Christ moved into ever higher dimensions of pure Divine Consciousness, free to remain or descend as He wanted. As he descended in frequencies of consciousness vibration, he tuned into and took on those vibrations, enabling him to communicate with each level rationlly.

Carmelo Urso: In the Gospels, the episode of Jesus in the desert is usually presented as his victory over the temptations that Satan deployed against the flesh, heart, mind and spirit. In the LETTERS, this experience is presented in a different way: in the desert, Jesus had discovered the true essence of Reality, that is to say that, “nothing is solid.” Could you explain the implications of Jesus’ discovery to the potential readers?

The Recorder: It is difficult to answer this question because certain facets of Christ’s experiences have been put together here incorrectly.

Jesus discovered nothing was solid

Yes, Jesus discovered nothing was solid but this referred to the apprently solid stuff of the planet – stones, plants, human beings. He discovered that the world was composed of energy in which the motes of creation (electrical particles) danced so swiftly that they produced the appearance of being solid.

Now, the most crucial perception here was that Jesus realised that the Energy underlying everything in the universe was what people could call God. Therefore God was not the remote individual taught by the Jews but a universally pervading Intelligence/Love in which every living thing of every kind and species was born and raised and maintained and sustained forever. Basically, the plants, the insects, fish, animals, humans had all taken on form and evolved out of or within the same Divine Energy. We were all one in our roots – we all shared the same consciousness. The differences lay in the fact that each kind – plants and trees etc were confined by their very physical structure to certain limits of experience and conscious response to that experience. And so it was with all the dfifferent species – but basically, in physical composition and spirit, there was no difference between plant and human. The only differences lay in our respective use of the consciousness with which we were born.

However, the true implications and significance of the Temptations to Jesus himself, was the full realisation that there were within him two human impulses (which later in the Letters, he termed the ego) attraction and rejection which governed man’s consciousness and pushed him into his daily actions. Now, Jesus was being inspirationally told that he must stop listening to his ego and must rely on the Divine interpenetrating the universe, for guidance on how to proceed during his waking hours. Jesus was well pleased to heed this instruction but found it extremely hard to put into practice because the voice of his ego urged him to enter into selfish actions. He had to constantly remind himself that he must rely on the Father’ for all his needs. When he did so, then his needs were met in the right way.

Carmelo Urso: In the LETTERS Jesus explains that “all exterior form is the expression of the inner consciousness,” that “Life and Consciousness are the same thing” and that both constitute the “Creative Power of the Divine Universal Mind,” which is the “only Reality behind all manifestation of individualized form.”

The Recorder: This is not correct. In the first place, it must be understood that exterior form is on one level of creation – visible manifestation of life and consciousness of certain vibratory frequencies only. They cannot even move into the astral dimension. And Life and Consciousness pertain to the very highest dimension of creativity although they are operative within the human dimension as well at very low vibrational frequencies. Hence the thoughts and feelings which can be experienced in the world are way below the feelings and thoughts of higher dimensions. They are basically of one substance but they manifest differences. And we must never forget that the consciousness we project is also electro-magnetic and hence what goes out – comes back. One should say, therefore, that personal projections create personal environment and experiences, health and relationships.

Carmelo Urso: In agreement with these premises, is the reality (or unreality) we contemplate a mere projection of our state of consciousness?

The Recorder: Yes, according to what has been said previously in the last lines.

Carmelo Urso: What is matter? What does a human, who achieves a state of absolute communion with the Creative Power of the Divine Universal Mind become?

The Recorder: Such a person is known as a Master, as he or she has the Christ insight to realise that their consciousness can control the atoms.

Carmelo Urso: Formal Christianity presents the notion of a God who severely punishes the sins of his children with eternal hell fire. What is the Nature of the ‘Father’ who Jesus speaks of in the LETTERS? How does He differ from the traditional Deity presented by the Christian Churches?

The Recorder: The difference between the formal Christian notion of a God is abolutely basic. According to the traditional concept of a God, He is male and possesses emotions. He can love and he can be wrathful and wreak vengence. He keeps tabs on all human beings and rewards them with ‘golden stars’ or punishes with ‘lashes’ according to their behaviour.

This is how Jesus describes God when visiting Zedekiah, having healed his son. He is now speaking to the friends and mourners of the family,

‘This illness which has come upon my son. Was this a punishment for something I have done wrong in the past? And how could I commit so grievous a sin that God should want to take my only son from me?’

Jesus said, ‘You have asked the question I most want to answer, Zedekiah. God gives us LIFE and being. He would not snatch these away as a man will snatch some treasure from another man because he is angry with him. And God is not placed on a throne in some part of the sky like human kings sit on thrones and govern their people. The way of God is far beyond anything the human mind can devise or dream about. I alone have ‘seen’ ‘That which has brought us into being’, and I know that IT is not the kind of ‘God’ taught by the Rabbis. I saw that IT is ‘Perfect Love’ and for this reason I would rather speak of the ‘Father’, for I have seen that It works within every living thing, keeping them in a good state of health even as a human father works to keep his children well fed, clothed and protected within the shelter of a home. I have ‘seen’ IT within everything in the world.
‘It is not possible for an individual ‘being’ of any kind to be everywhere at once. But the air is everywhere although we cannot see it. Nontheless, we know, – and do not doubt – If there were no air and we could not breathe it, we would die. The movement of air, which we call wind, we cannot see but we see it agitate the leaves, and drive the clouds across the sky, so we know the air is around and above us and is strong.

And – , we cannot see mind. We can only know we have a mind because of the thoughts it produces and because the thoughts fashion some kind of action in our lives. We believe mind works through the brain. Yes, it does. For how could brain, born of flesh, produce thoughts, feelings, ideas, plans? And now it should be clear to you that this is how the ‘Father’ is present within all things; It is the directing ‘mind’ behind the human mind, working Its great works within every living thing., we see the marvels it brings about.

Carmelo Urso: In agreement with the Jesus in the Letters, “the Father’s will is health.” If this is true, what is sickness then, and how can it be healed?

The Father’s will is health

The Recorder: According to Christ sickness appears when the vibrationery frequencies of consciousness in any organ drops below the norm. This is effected in many ways, including long periods of negative thoughts, despair, failure, bereavement. It can be healed swiftly by the inflow of spiritual Light into the affeced part of the body wih the laying on of hand or by the prayer of someone who can ascend in spiritual Light and project it through the third eye – the sixth chakra. Healing also takes place as a result of encouraging the body to regain vitality through right eating and taking drugs devised for that purpose; by correcting and changing negative thinking; by healing desperation on finding the inner Strength of Father- Mother- Life within us; by starting off again after having failed, trusting in the Divine Energy that is within us and by asking Universal Divine Consciousness for the fulfillment of all the needs in our lives, always giving thanks before receiving with complete confidence that our needs will be met and that out petition has been heard.

Carmelo Urso: Formal religion presents the “Kingdom of Heaven” as a place in which souls that have fulfilled certain and determined demands of God dwell. (abstain from committing sin, do good works, fulfill promply the rituals of worship and assimilate Divine Grace through faith). According to the LETTERS, what is the Kingdom of Heaven? Where is it? How do we realise that we are dwelling in it?

The Recorder: Yes, this is a very materialistic concept. Christ describes it as a quality of Being – the achievement of wholeness of perception, of unconditional love, of total forgiveness, of complete empathy and unity of spirit with others, of at-one-ment with Divine Consciousness.

Carmelo Urso: Is the “Father” of whom Jesus speaks constantly in the LETTERS personal or impersonal? Is He masculine and that is why we call him “Father?” Is he an external Being for His Creations or does He dwell within them?

The Recorder: For Christ, the ‘Father’ is Life, Divine Consciousness, the fundamental Energy out of which everything has taken on energy form and being. The ‘Father’ is everywhere like the air. It is within everything but it is also transcendant to living things, it can inspire, teach, guide, protect, rescue, heal. It appears to be without substance but It is the most powerful Energy giving being to all living things. Christ called it ‘Father’ because, according to Letter1, he perceived this Universal Consciousness as a Divine Mind from which all living things drew their consciousness – therefore, this Energy was truly ‘Father’ of all Its children. Also, Christ could see that a tremendous amount of work was done by the physical cells of living things and were directed by the transcendant Consciousness of the ‘Father’ – therefore the ‘Father’ worked to maintain creation in good health and working order.

The ‘Father’ is impersonal but It is Infinite Consciousness. Whenever we beings direct our thoughts at the ‘Father’, they reach their target and the ‘Father’ responds to us personally – because our consciousness works with electro-magnetism. Electricity sends the message and magnetism brings the response back to us in good time.

Carmelo Urso: What does the Jesus of the Letters have to say about faith and what relation is there between it and miracles? What are miracles?

The Recorder: Christ says that faith is of the utmost importance when praying or when attempting to materialize a desire or self-healing. It is at these times that we should be able to realize that the fact that nothing is solid is of such tremendous importance to us. When we pray or visualize and try to attract something into our lives, it is our faith which gives a stamp of certainty to the blueprint in electromagnetism we are creating. We are telling the blueprint – you will manifest in my experience – and that is another powerful consciousness instruction injected into the blue-print. Without faith, there is no impetus within the blueprint – it is just electrical outlines and filling in of magnetism without clear consciousness direction within it.

Carmelo Urso: Should people pay to have access to the contents of CHRIST’S LETTERS? Where can they be obtained and in what languages?

The Recorder: I, the Recorder, was told to give freely to all people. Christ expected that those who had the means to do so, would joyfully give in return. But this does not happen – only very infrequently.
The LETTERS can all be obtained free without charge on the website http://www.christsway.co.za in English, Spanish, French, Italian.

Carmelo Urso: Please give us a final message for the IberoAmerican readers.

The translators: In the first place, Carmelo, we would like to congratulate you on your excellent job of preparing the questions above. I say ‘we’ because nearly all the questions have been answered by the Recorder herself.
I myself translated into English for her (as is natural; both of us being English born). When the Recorder had completed her replies, Eduardo, our excellent companion of CHRIST’S WAY, did the job of translating everything back into Spanish. As you asked for a message for the IberoAmericans people, here you have Eduardo’s contribution.

“As an IberoAmerican I invite all my brothers and sisters to read the LETTERS daily, where they will find the Peace, Love and Wisdom that can probably not be found anywhere else.”

“Both the Recorder and myself, living in places far from our origins, feel we are ‘Citizens of Heaven and Earth.’ At the same time, we yearn for CHRIST’S LETTERS to reach every corner of the Earth, to all those people that are ready to receive them.”